Apache NetBeans (Incubating)
Is Apache NetBeans 10 Ready To Be Released?
Apache NetBeans 10vc3 is the third voting candidate of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 10 and has been created for purposes of NetCAT activities:
Please try 10vc3 and fill out the Community Acceptance Survey:
Watch a helpful YouTube clip here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7_OPJ6grvM
Duke Choice Award 2018 for Apache NetBeans
During Oracle Open World 2018, Apache NetBeans was awarded a Duke's Choice Award, recognizing its innovation and the hard and dedicated work involved in moving NetBeans from Oracle to Apache.
A crowd of Apache NetBeans community members received the award on the stage from Georges Saab, VP of the Java Platform at Oracle.
Posted at 12:00AM Oct 23, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
Apache NetBeans at Oracle Code One 2018
Saturday, Oct 20, 19:00 p.m. | Thirsty Bear, 661 Howard Street
Informal hangout (i.e., buy your own beer) with Apache NetBeans PPMC, committers, and community!
Sunday, Oct 21, 11:00 a.m. | Bike Ride
Go here for details: https://blog.idrsolutions.com/2018/09/open-invitation-to-bike-ride-at-oracle-codeone/.
Monday, Oct 22, 1:30 p.m. - 2:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2016
Title: Machine Learning for Software Developers in 45 Minutes [DEV5090]
Speakers: Zoran Sevarac, Frank Greco
Monday, Oct 22, 1:30 p.m. - 2:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2022
Title: Back from the Ashes: eFX/JavaFX Applications Made Simple [DEV5406]
Speakers: Sven Reimers, Florian Vogler
Monday, Oct 22, 2:30 p.m. - 3:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2018
Title: Exploring Java Heap Dumps [DEV5262]
Speakers: Ryan Cuprak
Monday, Oct 22, 7:30 p.m. - 8:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2005
Title: Deep Learning for Application Performance Optimization [BOF4967]
Speakers: Zoran Sevarac
Monday, Oct 22, 8:30 p.m. - 9:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2009
Title: Hacking the NetBeans IDE [BOF4760]
Speakers: Mark Stephens, Developer, Bethan Palmer
Tuesday, Oct 23, 7:30 p.m. - 8:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2010
Title: Writing Better Code (Faster) in the Apache NetBeans IDE [BOF4759]
Speakers: Mark Stephens, Developer, Bethan Palmer
Tuesday, Oct 23, 7:30 p.m. - 8:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2014
Title: Got a Gig Teaching Java? You Should Be Using Apache NetBeans in the Classroom [BOF4820]
Speakers: Kenneth Fogel, Instructor, Concordia University
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2:30 p.m. - 3:15 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2016
Title: Bridging Swing and JavaFX on an Enterprise Scale [DEV6080]
Speakers: Sven Reimers, José Pereda
Wednesday, Oct 24, 9:00 a.m. - 9:45 a.m. | Moscone West - Room 2010
Title: Java Debugging Tips [DEV4512]
Speakers: Martin Skarsaune
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2:45 p.m. - 4:45 p.m. | Moscone West - Room 2001A (HOL)
Title: Lambda Programming Laboratory - BYOL [HOL6006]
Speakers: Jeff Dinkins, Stuart Marks, Maurice Naftalin, José Paumard
Thursday, Oct 25, 09:00 AM - 11:00 AM | Moscone West - Overlook 2A (HOL)
Title: Jakarta EE Hands-on Lab - BYOL [HOL4852]
Speakers: David Heffelfinger, Bob Larsen
Posted at 02:02PM Oct 17, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
Initial Language Server Protocol Support in Apache NetBeans 10
Did you know that the first stage of Language Server Protocol (LSP) support will be included in Apache NetBeans 10?
See this PR for details, with instructions for how to use it.
Some screenshots for Kotlin support via LSP:
A lot more work needs to be done, of course, some of which is here, you're welcome to join in:
Posted at 10:50AM Oct 10, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
Audio of Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 3
The third of a series of informal virtual meetups took place today, focused specifically on why/how/when to move netbeans.org to Apache.
The audio of the meeting is available here and takes about 53 minutes:
Screenshot of what we saw of each other, partly:
Posted at 09:50PM Sep 06, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
Apache NetBeans Guest Blog: Edward M. Kagan
I'm a big fan of NetBeans, and a team-lead of 2pm.tech crew, a group of independent developers from Russia. For about the last five years, we have been using NetBeans in all of our projects, from "hardcore C embedded systems" to "Grails web-apps", and as a result we've also been hacking NetBeans a little.
As of 2018, there are now 11 developers in the team. Currently, half of us work with Grails apps, despite the poor Grails support in NetBeans at the moment. We're continuing to work with NetBeans due to it simplicity, small footprint, and design. If the NetBeans community would dig up the Groovy/Grails support, lots of developers will switch to NetBeans I think, and also I'll be very happy, too. :-)
One of coolest things we've created lately is the Crew Look & Feel plugin, which we hadn't released to the public yet and now we think the time has come. It's not too complicated, but a nice little add-in to have, maybe it'll be useful for other users too. Here it is on the Plugin Portal:
Click to enlarge the images below, to get a feel for the new plugin that provides our look and feel:
NetBeans is my favorite IDE and Apache is one of my technological icons. So, I'm very happy for NetBeans to be migrating to Apache. Apache does not always give you a sweet design, though it does always provide nice UNIX-like tools, and I love it. I hope Apache will make NetBeans not only better, but the best IDE for all Java-based technologies. :-)
Posted at 11:29AM Sep 05, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
Audio of Virtual Apache NetBeans Meeting 2
The second of a series of informal virtual meetups took place today.
The audio of the meeting is available here and takes about 45 minutes:
Sign up to the next virtual meetups here:
Posted at 11:43AM Aug 21, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
NetBeans Status at InfoQ
Today an article was published on InfoQ describing the current state and progress of Apache NetBeans.
Click to read the start of it here:
Go here to read it all:
Posted at 12:00AM Aug 16, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |
[ANNOUNCE] Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Released
The Apache NetBeans team is proud to announce the release of Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0.
Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 constitutes all the modules in the Apache NetBeans Git repo, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that provide the Java SE-related features of Apache NetBeans. In short, Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 is a full IDE for Java SE development.
Read more on our download page:
New & Noteworthy features of the 9.0 Release:
Work is being done on bringing netbeans.org to Apache. In the meantime, refer to the below for all details related to Apache NetBeans:
Disclaimer: Apache NetBeans is an effort undergoing incubation at The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), sponsored by the Apache Incubator. Incubation is required of all newly accepted projects until a further review indicates that the infrastructure, communications, and decision making process have stabilized in a manner consistent with other successful ASF projects. While incubation status is not necessarily a reflection of the completeness or stability of the code, it does indicate that the project has yet to be fully endorsed by the ASF.
What's "nb-javac" in Apache NetBeans?
Not long after you start up Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 on top of JDK 8, after accepting the license agreement and handling import settings, you're confronted with this dialog:
What does that mean? And why, when you start up Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 on top of JDK 9 or above, do you see the following, instead:
Note: The above appears in a balloon popup in the bottom right the first time you start up Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 on JDK 9 or above. If you miss out on seeing or responding to the message, go to Window | IDE Tools | Notifications anytime afterwards and you'll have another opportunity to install it:
Let's start by looking at the question, what is "nb-javac"? Well, "nb-javac", which is a patched version of "javac", i.e., the Java compiler, has long been part of NetBeans, providing a highly tuned Java compiler specifically for the Java editor in NetBeans, and wasn't part of the donation of NetBeans to Apache since, of course, the Java compiler (or a fork thereof) cannot be part of the donation. That's because Oracle is not donating Java to Apache, instead, it is donating NetBeans. The Java compiler belongs to the JDK which is licensed to Oracle.
Separate from Oracle's obvious understandable unwillingness to donate a Java compiler fork to Apache, or anyone else, Apache would have a problem with a fork of the Java compiler being distributed from Apache since the Java compiler is LGPL licensed.
In short, neither Oracle nor Apache want the Java compiler to be part of NetBeans in Apache. Yet, NetBeans gains a lot from the patched Java compiler, as explained below:
Also see this reference for details on the situation:
However, using model APIs added in JDK 9, Apache NetBeans can make use of the Java compiler directly from the JDK, as explained here:
So, as can be seen, from Apache NetBeans running on JDK 9 and onwards, you have a choice: either use the Java compiler from the JDK, which means you're not benefiting from a number of enhancements especially added for NetBeans over many years in the patched Java compiler, or you need to explicitly add the patched Java compiler, since it is provided by Oracle and its licensing is such that you need to take responsibility for installing it yourself. On the other hand, if you're using Apache NetBeans with JDK 8, the choice is simpler, i.e., you need to install nb-javac, otherwise you will not be able to use Java in Apache NetBeans.
It's not an ideal situation. On the other hand, if someone has a better solution, please feel free to propose that solution and also consider providing a pull request too!
What's Happened to My Favorite NetBeans Plugins?
What's the reason for that and what can be done?
Well, Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 is specifically focused on Java SE only. Why? Because NetBeans is extremely large (it will be by far the largest project in Apache, once everything has been donated), which is because it has existed for over 20 years and provides support for a very wide range of technologies. Since so many files all needed to be audited before they could be donated to Apache, the decision was made to donate NetBeans in pieces, i.e., not everything at the same time because that would have taken much too long.
And since NetBeans is modular, doing an incremental donation was not difficult to architect. The first donation focused specifically on the underlying core, i.e., the NetBeans Platform (e.g., the module system, window system, menubar, etc etc) and, to enable the result of the first donation to be usable for general users and not just NetBeans Platform developers, the various Java SE features were included too, e.g., Java project templates, Java editor, and new Java features such as support for Jigsaw, JLink, and JShell.
So, does that mean that all the features that are not integrated into Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 cannot be used? No, it does not. Go to Tools | Plugins in Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 and, in the Settings tab, register the NetBeans IDE 8.2 update center:
Though note that none of these features have been tested with Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0, they should work, in most cases. If not, don't panic. Just sign up to the Apache NetBeans mailing lists, as explained at netbeans.apache.org, and start a new thread where you'll highlight some problem you've encountered, after which someone will help you or you'll be advised to create a new issue in Apache NetBeans Issuezilla.
Where is all this documented, how can anyone know what will be donated in which order, etc? Easy, go here, to the end of this page:
Tentative Schedule for Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 Release
We're currently running two processes, both of which it would be great if everyone would participate in -- and in fact it's really important that everyone does these two things:
- Vote in the PPMC thread:
Doing the above means more than putting a +1, it means downloading the sources, building them, looking at keys, etc, as described above.
- Fill out the Community Acceptance survey, which is focused on the functionality (versus the sources, which is what the PPMC thread is about), which takes about 5 minutes:
The Community Acceptance Survey runs until Sunday the 22nd of July. Issues found in the meantime will hopefully not be critical and not require a new voting candidate, but we'll need to see how things go and nothing can be guaranteed here of course -- i.e., someone could find a blocker of some kind during the community acceptance survey process.
Hopefully, nothing going wrong and everything going well, we'll then be at a point to start the IPMC vote thread on the 23rd and, if everything goes well, release Apache NetBeans (incubating) 9.0 at the beginning of August.
After that we'll work on the 2nd donation, relicensing it, moving it into master etc.
1.5 M Lines Of Oracle Code Now in Apache NetBeans Git
Go here to see the new branch containing the 2nd donation: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation
NetBeans Status at FossBack '18
The session outlining 10 tips for large corporate projects moving to Apache, with NetBeans as an illustrative example, presented at FossBack '18, is now available on YouTube:
Click above or, alternatively, go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bnznard9Nls
The full report on the session and NetBeans attendance is here: https://blogs.apache.org/netbeans/entry/apache-netbeans-at-foss-backstage
Posted at 07:58PM Jun 22, 2018 by Geertjan in General | |